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	<title>Comments on: Sure, News Outlets Say 2008 Coldest in 10 Years, Dont Say Its Also the 9th Warmest on Record</title>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming was a fact. Global cooling is also a fact. We are in the middle of a natural cycle, not something made up by anyone with the possible exception of God. The earth has been cooling for the last seven years from a high temperture not seen in a thousand years so naturally it is possible to argue that 2008 was BOTH a warmest and coolest on record! The only really decisive easily identifiable natural phenomenon that we can point to are the sunspots. The three sunspot cycles during the global warming period were some of the most intense in the last hundred years. The current sunspot cycle is almost nonexistent,  mirroring the lack of sunspots during the Dalton Minimum of the 19th century. According to the historical record when there is a lack of sunspots the temperature of the earth cools. That is apparently what is happening today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming was a fact. Global cooling is also a fact. We are in the middle of a natural cycle, not something made up by anyone with the possible exception of God. The earth has been cooling for the last seven years from a high temperture not seen in a thousand years so naturally it is possible to argue that 2008 was BOTH a warmest and coolest on record! The only really decisive easily identifiable natural phenomenon that we can point to are the sunspots. The three sunspot cycles during the global warming period were some of the most intense in the last hundred years. The current sunspot cycle is almost nonexistent,  mirroring the lack of sunspots during the Dalton Minimum of the 19th century. According to the historical record when there is a lack of sunspots the temperature of the earth cools. That is apparently what is happening today.</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The planet has naturally heated and cooled and reheated itself continuously throughout its time. The climate is always changing! This “ man-made global warming issue” is a fraud generated by the government with the interests of raising taxes, setting restrictions and rules on every day life. Who benefits from “saving the environment by stopping Global Warming? Who’s getting millions and millions of dollars from the world buying this propaganda? The increase in carbon dioxide is simply caused by the sun, not us! The government gets more money and the media gets a story. So who are these scientists that are claiming this man-made climate change? Not Climatologists. Physicists and Marine Biologists. Um, great.

Unless the earth completely melts or freezes, there is no way to support this theory, so everyone will always be debating. Why not focus on issues that are more important. Like, let’s say world hunger and poverty. Why not help those in need instead of wasting your time making people feel guilty for LIVING. It must be satisfying for your ego to sit and type away on how we’re all horrible people for not recycling or driving SUV’s (which by the way, have better gas mileage these days and pretty close to the gas mileage of a sedan).  Really? Is this how you’re doing your part in changing the world by bringing awareness to a hoax? Let’s all jump on the bandwagon and buy Prius’s to show how I am a better person than all of you. We drive cars that are causing world suffering? Should I feel guilty for emitting carbon dioxide by breathing? There is nothing wrong with taking care of your environment, keeping it clean and all that. Fact is, we’re ALL parasites. We are living creatures that consume our resources and are wasteful, it’s inevitable. Should I reuse my q-tips, skip showers; maybe use old newspaper to blow my nose? Why should anyone feel guilty for living? Why should you make this into a political platform? 
Tree rings, coral reefs, and ice cores help prove that the earth has experienced vast climate changes throughout its history. Look it up! In fact, instead of being so closed-minded, have you taken the time to research the probability of why this is all false? 

So you say there’s a hole in our ozone layer? The ozone layer has different reactions with solar radiation and breaks down and covers up again. The ozone is made of oxygen and is very unstable, and that is it&#039;s own nature, and not caused by us. Did you also forget on how the earth circles and spins and even wobbles a little around the sun? Sometimes the earth spins closer, and this is why we have warmer climates. 
Ultimately, I hope you do more research on your part before labeling people and playing the blame game. Know the REAL facts first, it’s enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The planet has naturally heated and cooled and reheated itself continuously throughout its time. The climate is always changing! This “ man-made global warming issue” is a fraud generated by the government with the interests of raising taxes, setting restrictions and rules on every day life. Who benefits from “saving the environment by stopping Global Warming? Who’s getting millions and millions of dollars from the world buying this propaganda? The increase in carbon dioxide is simply caused by the sun, not us! The government gets more money and the media gets a story. So who are these scientists that are claiming this man-made climate change? Not Climatologists. Physicists and Marine Biologists. Um, great.</p>
<p>Unless the earth completely melts or freezes, there is no way to support this theory, so everyone will always be debating. Why not focus on issues that are more important. Like, let’s say world hunger and poverty. Why not help those in need instead of wasting your time making people feel guilty for LIVING. It must be satisfying for your ego to sit and type away on how we’re all horrible people for not recycling or driving SUV’s (which by the way, have better gas mileage these days and pretty close to the gas mileage of a sedan).  Really? Is this how you’re doing your part in changing the world by bringing awareness to a hoax? Let’s all jump on the bandwagon and buy Prius’s to show how I am a better person than all of you. We drive cars that are causing world suffering? Should I feel guilty for emitting carbon dioxide by breathing? There is nothing wrong with taking care of your environment, keeping it clean and all that. Fact is, we’re ALL parasites. We are living creatures that consume our resources and are wasteful, it’s inevitable. Should I reuse my q-tips, skip showers; maybe use old newspaper to blow my nose? Why should anyone feel guilty for living? Why should you make this into a political platform?<br />
Tree rings, coral reefs, and ice cores help prove that the earth has experienced vast climate changes throughout its history. Look it up! In fact, instead of being so closed-minded, have you taken the time to research the probability of why this is all false? </p>
<p>So you say there’s a hole in our ozone layer? The ozone layer has different reactions with solar radiation and breaks down and covers up again. The ozone is made of oxygen and is very unstable, and that is it&#8217;s own nature, and not caused by us. Did you also forget on how the earth circles and spins and even wobbles a little around the sun? Sometimes the earth spins closer, and this is why we have warmer climates.<br />
Ultimately, I hope you do more research on your part before labeling people and playing the blame game. Know the REAL facts first, it’s enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/sure-news-outlets-say-2008-coldest-in-10-years-dont-say-its-9th-warmest-on-record/comment-page-1/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow man your a joke. Congratulations on saving the world. You&#039;re the guy that makes white people look like whiny pompous weenies. Thanks for that! And as far as how I am, &quot;in vested in the consumer and carbon lifestyle&quot;, I dont drive a Prius. Shit man, I know I am going to hell for that. And I dont recycle. It takes more energy to recycle than make another one, but damn it feels good pretending your doing good for the world. Look, I love earth. I hike, mountain bike, scuba dive, ski, you name it I do it. And dont get me wrong the environmental revolution is a great thing. But the way you f#$ks go about making people feel guilty and villainizing them should be illegal. Do you realize how little evidence there is in global warming? There is more evidence that supports the existence of aliens. And guys like you, spend hours creating blogs about this crap. But I guess the jokes on me, because I am now wasting my time on your clowny ass blog. And trust me big guy, I am not in the minority. More scientists believe that man made global warming is false. And NO, I am not &quot;some anonymous person&quot;. YES, these are my words. Mine as in MIKE EMERSON of Los Angeles, CA. Yeah, the home of the Prius retards. Thanks for everything, homie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow man your a joke. Congratulations on saving the world. You&#8217;re the guy that makes white people look like whiny pompous weenies. Thanks for that! And as far as how I am, &#8220;in vested in the consumer and carbon lifestyle&#8221;, I dont drive a Prius. Shit man, I know I am going to hell for that. And I dont recycle. It takes more energy to recycle than make another one, but damn it feels good pretending your doing good for the world. Look, I love earth. I hike, mountain bike, scuba dive, ski, you name it I do it. And dont get me wrong the environmental revolution is a great thing. But the way you f#$ks go about making people feel guilty and villainizing them should be illegal. Do you realize how little evidence there is in global warming? There is more evidence that supports the existence of aliens. And guys like you, spend hours creating blogs about this crap. But I guess the jokes on me, because I am now wasting my time on your clowny ass blog. And trust me big guy, I am not in the minority. More scientists believe that man made global warming is false. And NO, I am not &#8220;some anonymous person&#8221;. YES, these are my words. Mine as in MIKE EMERSON of Los Angeles, CA. Yeah, the home of the Prius retards. Thanks for everything, homie.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/sure-news-outlets-say-2008-coldest-in-10-years-dont-say-its-9th-warmest-on-record/comment-page-1/#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mike, are these your words, or some anonymous person? I wonder how this person in vested in the consumer and carbon lifestyle. Because it&#039;s only people who live this lifestyle or make money or influence through this lifestyle, that convince themselves that the science it wrong.

It amazes me that deniers and skeptics fail to realize that they are the minority, and that there are clubs out there for people just like them. One that I can think of off the top of my head is &quot;The Flat Earth Society&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mike, are these your words, or some anonymous person? I wonder how this person in vested in the consumer and carbon lifestyle. Because it&#8217;s only people who live this lifestyle or make money or influence through this lifestyle, that convince themselves that the science it wrong.</p>
<p>It amazes me that deniers and skeptics fail to realize that they are the minority, and that there are clubs out there for people just like them. One that I can think of off the top of my head is &#8220;The Flat Earth Society&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>READ THIS: IMPORTANT

&lt;b&gt;You guys are clowns!&lt;/b&gt;
          The media has been the exact opposite for the last ten years with the doom and gloom, &quot;how dare you drive your SUV&quot; attitude because it catches your attention. That&#039;s what sells, retards. You bought it, congrats . Now some good news and you guys are pissed. Awesome. Environmental sheep. You guys feel more comfortable with news that mankind is killing our world, rather than news that things would be alright. You sit on your pedestal next to your hybrids and smart cars pompously  conversating about a false superiority. Smart cars get the same mileage as a Corolla, only seats two, and has zero trunk space. Thats smart.

For what ever reason we live in a society where people are deathly afraid of being wrong. This is backwards. When your  wrong about something it should be calibrated because you have learned something new. You have advanced your knowledge. The cause of this is ego and we must ride it off our world, dammit. 

So lets do it together starting with this topic. It sucks that our politicians have raped the idea of global warming to increase funding and general fear throughout the public. But the truth is that &quot;Global Warming&quot; is theory with very little evidence and a powerful political tool. 
See, not so hard! We did it! Great Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>READ THIS: IMPORTANT</p>
<p><b>You guys are clowns!</b><br />
          The media has been the exact opposite for the last ten years with the doom and gloom, &#8220;how dare you drive your SUV&#8221; attitude because it catches your attention. That&#8217;s what sells, retards. You bought it, congrats . Now some good news and you guys are pissed. Awesome. Environmental sheep. You guys feel more comfortable with news that mankind is killing our world, rather than news that things would be alright. You sit on your pedestal next to your hybrids and smart cars pompously  conversating about a false superiority. Smart cars get the same mileage as a Corolla, only seats two, and has zero trunk space. Thats smart.</p>
<p>For what ever reason we live in a society where people are deathly afraid of being wrong. This is backwards. When your  wrong about something it should be calibrated because you have learned something new. You have advanced your knowledge. The cause of this is ego and we must ride it off our world, dammit. </p>
<p>So lets do it together starting with this topic. It sucks that our politicians have raped the idea of global warming to increase funding and general fear throughout the public. But the truth is that &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; is theory with very little evidence and a powerful political tool.<br />
See, not so hard! We did it! Great Job!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Lee Dooley</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/sure-news-outlets-say-2008-coldest-in-10-years-dont-say-its-9th-warmest-on-record/comment-page-1/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Lee Dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that the World Meteorological Organization press release says &quot;warmest&quot; whereas the Scientific American article based on that press release chooses to use &quot;coolest&quot;.

Thanks for bringing this issue up - confusion in spreading the message about what&#039;s really happening to our planet just makes decision-making all that more difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that the World Meteorological Organization press release says &#8220;warmest&#8221; whereas the Scientific American article based on that press release chooses to use &#8220;coolest&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this issue up &#8211; confusion in spreading the message about what&#8217;s really happening to our planet just makes decision-making all that more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, 

Creating or better co-creating our reality is so fascinating, but it&#039;s hard to explain it in a few words, because it is so different from what we were taught to beleive.
Check the book The Divine Matrix from Gregg Braden. It&#039;s mind blowing. The book The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto is also fascinating. But there are also other books, if you are interested ... 

Sabina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, </p>
<p>Creating or better co-creating our reality is so fascinating, but it&#8217;s hard to explain it in a few words, because it is so different from what we were taught to beleive.<br />
Check the book The Divine Matrix from Gregg Braden. It&#8217;s mind blowing. The book The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto is also fascinating. But there are also other books, if you are interested &#8230; </p>
<p>Sabina</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabina,

I used to get told &quot;You better start living in reality!&quot; Then I realized that there are 6 Billion different realities, 1 for every person walking the earth.

Don&#039;t know that thinking it is all better, will change the weather though. Would be nice, though.

Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabina,</p>
<p>I used to get told &#8220;You better start living in reality!&#8221; Then I realized that there are 6 Billion different realities, 1 for every person walking the earth.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know that thinking it is all better, will change the weather though. Would be nice, though.</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura Lee,

Good reads, thanks for the info and the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura Lee,</p>
<p>Good reads, thanks for the info and the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Lee Dooley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Lee Dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is confusing. I think this recent news originated with the World Meteorological Organization announcing that 2008 will be the coolest since 1997 but still the tenth hottest in a temperature record dating back 150 years. See http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_835_en.html. The Scientific American article boils this technical jargon down to something more understandable at http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=2008-will-be-coolest-year

Global weirding indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is confusing. I think this recent news originated with the World Meteorological Organization announcing that 2008 will be the coolest since 1997 but still the tenth hottest in a temperature record dating back 150 years. See <a href="http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_835_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_835_en.html</a>. The Scientific American article boils this technical jargon down to something more understandable at <a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=2008-will-be-coolest-year" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=2008-will-be-coolest-year</a></p>
<p>Global weirding indeed.</p>
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