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Immigration and Global Warming – Is There a Link?

by Adam Shake · 9 comments


I’ve written a few articles on Population and Consumption, but I have not addressed Immigration in reference to Global Warming.  Immigration is a politically charged hot button, and my failure to address the topic has led to the consternation of a few people.

So when I saw an article in about it in the New Times, I thought it could be a catalyst for an article on this website. (above is the video)

Now please allow me to make what seems to me, to be an obvious truth, and then I’ll follow it up with a question for you.

Increased Immigration causes increased pollution (air, soil, water…) within the United States. That is a truth, just like a growing population causes the same effects. Immigration is, simply put, an increase in population. But the claim has been made that an Immigrant that comes to this country has a carbon footprint 4 times as large as when he or she were in their home country.

Now, without saying whether I am for or against Immigration Control, let me ask you a question. Should the United States be studying Immigration and Global Warming, and as a result of those studies, what (if anything) should the Government do?

Looking forward to your comments

Source: New Times SLO

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1 Roy Scribner October 30, 2008 at 12:47 pm

I’m having a tough time making a link between immigration and an increased carbon footprint. What was a particular person’s carbon footprint in their country of origin? Do they suddenly get an SUV and an air conditioner when they come to the U.S.?

We are having a problem with marijuana farms on public lands (and their associated tree-cutting, soil excavation, chemical dumping, etc.) that is being attributed to our post-9/11 tightening of the borders. It’s been rampant in California, but is also a problem on the east coast (see http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/261045 for info).

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2 Adam Shake October 30, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Hey Roy,

Thanks for stopping in. I think the connection is supposed to be that when someone from a 3rd world country moves to a first world country, their consumption rate increases, thereby increasing their carbon footprint and Global Warming.

I know that for me, it took a bit to wrap my head around, and I’m still not sure about the stat’s and facts in reference to their footprint before and after moving, but it’s an interesting argument.

The article you provided is interesting, and worth reading. It does make sense that if the Mexican drug cartel’s are having trouble moving the dope across the border, they will come here and grow it in our own National Parks, causing environmental problems in our own backyards.

Thanks for the comment Roy. For those who haven’t already, please check out Roy’s website http://www.campingblogger.net/

Adam

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3 Bill Elder November 18, 2008 at 6:39 pm

Please use this second version – typos corrected.

I’d add that if one is concerned about America’s impact on the globe, the issue is long term population growth which drives our total consumption along with life style decisions.

If poor people move to the U.S. and increase their standard of living, they will have a direct impact e.g. on our carbon foot print. But I think the greater long term impact is in the second and third generation when the full America life style has been adopted and is affordable. (I’ve seen this first hand with my Japanese wife’s family. First generation were farmworks and maintained a fairly traditional lifestyle. Third generation consumes at a fully American rate.)

Congress has set very high levels of immigration compared to historical levels. About 1 million per year (legal) compared to about 250,000.

In addition to immigration, our reproduction is also very high compared to other developed nations. Total fertility rate of 2.1 versus 1.4 or so in Europe and Japan.

I’m working with a group of conservationist who will be initiating a web site shortly advocating for lower immigration, reproduction and consumption to achieve a stable and sustainable U.S. population.

Really glad to see this discussion here.

Thanks,
Bill Elder

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4 Adam Shake November 18, 2008 at 8:43 pm

Bill,

Well said. Thank you. I would be interested in visiting that website when it is available. Could you send me the link?

I recently read an article, and I wish I could quote its source, but I seem to have forgotten, which backs up your argument.

I had a round of discussions with another reader about this subject, and the more I thought about his argument, the article I read and your observations, the more I have to agree that in addition to consumption education, we need to take a good hard look at immigration.

Thanks for your comment Bill, and thanks for stopping by.

Adam

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5 Bill Elder November 18, 2008 at 8:53 pm

Thank you Adam. I certainly will send the link as soon as the site goes active in a couple of weeks.

Bill

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6 Ben Zuckerman November 19, 2008 at 11:16 pm

As stated earlier in this discussion, when people immigrate to the U.S. their consumption, and thus their environmental footprint, increases. Much less well known is the following result of a study published a few years ago by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington DC: On average, an immigrant woman in the USA has more babies than she would have had had she remained in her country of origin. Thus, immigration to the USA increases not only the population of the U.S., but also world population. The more people in the world, the greater is humanity’s total environmental footprint.

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7 Adam Shake November 20, 2008 at 9:44 am

I agree. I’ve said before, that at the heart of all of our problems, is the fact that there are too many people fighting for too little resources. It is a lot easier speaking to responsible consumption and disposal, than about population control. My hat is off to those who take on the challenge.

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8 Stuart Hurlbert November 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Good to see these issues being taken up here, as the mainline scientific and environmental communities not only are afraid to address them openly but engage in active censorship of “politically incorrect” facts and opinion on them. The battles within the Sierra Club over the last 15 years over whether it should stop advocating for US population stabilization are well known. It stopped.

Recently as editor of a volume of scientific papers on the Salton Sea, I encountered an extreme example of suppression of information by scientists themselves, the directorate of the North American Lake Management Society. They censored my preface to the volume. This had been approved by an editor and mentioned, inter alia: that the US Senate voted in May 2006 to almost double the rate of US population growth (by increasing immigration quotas and giving a mass amnesty to illegal aliens); that senators voting for that bill included three presidential candidates (Obama, Clinton, McCain) and both California senators (Boxer, Feinstein); and that persons who had raised the issue of environmental consequences of immigration at past Salton Sea symposia had been publicly called “racist” and “neo-Nazi”.

The full preface and an essay titled “Axing Truth” that describes the whole sad story are now available on line at:
http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/salton/2005SymposiumPubs.html

Moral of the story: Don’t count on the scientific establishment for courage or unvarnished truths.

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9 George Parigian Jr. June 1, 2009 at 10:27 pm

Yes, this is a no-brainer! I am tempted to say that it is odd that the same people who are all in a tizzy about “global warming” and “carbon footprints” seem to favor illegal immigration.

However, in both cases their thinking is convoluted. They don’t have to deal with the inconsistency of their positions, because they never think their arguments through in the first place.

Increased immigration is being driven by big business seeking cheap labor. While I don’t believe the global warming hysteria, immigration DOES certainly mean their will be more people living here, more driving cars, using energy resources, creating trash, ect.

The “carbon footprints” of these immigrants will be a lot bigger than they were in their countries of origin, for very logical reasons.

The bottom line is that the quality of life in the US will suffer, but the same gamers that created the financial meltdown will make even more money as these immigrants drive down the wage base in this country.

Nice huh……

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