Comments on: Australian Wildfire Intensity Linked to Global Warming, Scientists Say http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/australian-wildfire-intensity-linked-to-global-warming-scientists-say/ Twilight Earth is dedicated to saving the Environment through shared News, Discussion, Advocacy and Activism Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:09:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Adam Shake http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/australian-wildfire-intensity-linked-to-global-warming-scientists-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4682 Adam Shake Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:43:34 +0000 http://www.twilightearth.com/?p=2950#comment-4682 Global Patriot, That is something that none of want to imagine, but something that we should all be keeping an eye on. When people with nefarious intentions can take advantage of a situation, they will, and they will exploit it. Adam Global Patriot,

That is something that none of want to imagine, but something that we should all be keeping an eye on. When people with nefarious intentions can take advantage of a situation, they will, and they will exploit it.

Adam

]]> By: Adam Shake http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/australian-wildfire-intensity-linked-to-global-warming-scientists-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4679 Adam Shake Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:00:20 +0000 http://www.twilightearth.com/?p=2950#comment-4679 Red, I am sorry for the loss of the land. I am sorry for your loss as an Australian. I have seen much death in my lifetime, and though I would have railed against anyone who told me this while I was in mourning, "with death, comes new life." Although through our own actions, we bring the planets death, and even our own, closer every day. Yes, you are right. If we don't start realizing that the world is a fragile and delicate place, then we are doomed to destroy it and ourselves. Thank you for your well written and articulate comment, Adam Red,

I am sorry for the loss of the land. I am sorry for your loss as an Australian.

I have seen much death in my lifetime, and though I would have railed against anyone who told me this while I was in mourning, “with death, comes new life.”

Although through our own actions, we bring the planets death, and even our own, closer every day. Yes, you are right. If we don’t start realizing that the world is a fragile and delicate place, then we are doomed to destroy it and ourselves.

Thank you for your well written and articulate comment,

Adam

]]> By: Red http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/australian-wildfire-intensity-linked-to-global-warming-scientists-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4677 Red Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:23:46 +0000 http://www.twilightearth.com/?p=2950#comment-4677 As an Australian and a Victorian I have seen all of these places. My cousin lives in Keilor, my Beautiful Auntie in Kinglake west, my Uncle in Whitlesea. I have seen the lichens slowly dissapear in the dry woodlands North of Melbourne, I have seen the boggy wet forest floor of the Maintains try to dust. The biggest connection I can find in all this is one thing. Back in 1980 before Ash Wednesday there were massive high pressure systems covering Australia and again, for the last ten years now the same is true. The cold southerly lows rarely bring rains in from the East but instead bring frigid air from due south. These same lows used to wash over Victoria all the way to Sydney bringing rain, now the barely reach Hobart. They have in fact moved (+/-) 700 Kl Southwards. Of the ones that do get here, they arrive and nothing happens. There is little or no rain in them and the winds are stronger, colder and reduce the once abundant fogs we used to get. The fog is the key here! Australian gum trees harvest water from fog and will drip constantly all night, all day. We had 3 decently foggy days last year in Winter. The rest were frosty and very cold followed by weeks of perpetual sunshine. If you think I am trying to make fun of people in the north I am not. The typical weather pattern in Victoria was for 4 days of Sun, 3 Days of rain. IN winter that was reversed with only Jan, Feb and March being "dry" months. Even so In summer, it rained so hard sometimes rivers and creeks would readily overflow breaking their banks. The valley grasses never browned off, the trees lichens rich in moisture. Now the Lichens have thinned down or gone, the valley grasses are as brown and dry as the top of hills, the trees, gum trees are shedding leaves and branches to stay alive. European trees need constant care or they will certainly die. You could call it climate shift if you want to. I just watched 50 kilometers of Forrest, woodlands and Temperate forest to the North West, some of the most beautiful places around Melbourne burn to ash in less than 3 hours. As one fire fighter put it. "I was there on ash Wednesday 1983. I saw those fires but this, this was a furnace, nothing would have stopped this. Nothing! I wonder how long before it takes out suburbs, not hundreds of people but thousands. I know It can happen. I wanted to go with my camera and take as many images as I could but I dare not leave this Suburban home. If that fire was aimed this way, I shudder to think. Even homes on grassy paddocks burned down. So what is a timber fence, a dying Oak or Poplar, a garden full of exotic weeds. Melbourne and Sydney are time bombs. Not because of what we made or how, but the weather and the Australian climate knows no rules. Urban / Suburban, it dies not matter. As an Australian and a Victorian I have seen all of these places. My cousin lives in Keilor, my Beautiful Auntie in Kinglake west, my Uncle in Whitlesea. I have seen the lichens slowly dissapear in the dry woodlands North of Melbourne, I have seen the boggy wet forest floor of the Maintains try to dust. The biggest connection I can find in all this is one thing. Back in 1980 before Ash Wednesday there were massive high pressure systems covering Australia and again, for the last ten years now the same is true. The cold southerly lows rarely bring rains in from the East but instead bring frigid air from due south. These same lows used to wash over Victoria all the way to Sydney bringing rain, now the barely reach Hobart. They have in fact moved (+/-) 700 Kl Southwards. Of the ones that do get here, they arrive and nothing happens. There is little or no rain in them and the winds are stronger, colder and reduce the once abundant fogs we used to get. The fog is the key here! Australian gum trees harvest water from fog and will drip constantly all night, all day. We had 3 decently foggy days last year in Winter. The rest were frosty and very cold followed by weeks of perpetual sunshine. If you think I am trying to make fun of people in the north I am not. The typical weather pattern in Victoria was for 4 days of Sun, 3 Days of rain. IN winter that was reversed with only Jan, Feb and March being “dry” months. Even so In summer, it rained so hard sometimes rivers and creeks would readily overflow breaking their banks. The valley grasses never browned off, the trees lichens rich in moisture. Now the Lichens have thinned down or gone, the valley grasses are as brown and dry as the top of hills, the trees, gum trees are shedding leaves and branches to stay alive. European trees need constant care or they will certainly die. You could call it climate shift if you want to. I just watched 50 kilometers of Forrest, woodlands and Temperate forest to the North West, some of the most beautiful places around Melbourne burn to ash in less than 3 hours.

As one fire fighter put it. “I was there on ash Wednesday 1983. I saw those fires but this, this was a furnace, nothing would have stopped this. Nothing!

I wonder how long before it takes out suburbs, not hundreds of people but thousands. I know It can happen. I wanted to go with my camera and take as many images as I could but I dare not leave this Suburban home. If that fire was aimed this way, I shudder to think. Even homes on grassy paddocks burned down. So what is a timber fence, a dying Oak or Poplar, a garden full of exotic weeds. Melbourne and Sydney are time bombs. Not because of what we made or how, but the weather and the Australian climate knows no rules. Urban / Suburban, it dies not matter.

]]> By: Global Patriot http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/australian-wildfire-intensity-linked-to-global-warming-scientists-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4659 Global Patriot Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:06:01 +0000 http://www.twilightearth.com/?p=2950#comment-4659 There have been many instances of fires being set maliciously by arsonists, and the damage has been tremendous in many parts of the world. What few have considered is the terrorist angle in all this - that groups might take advantage of climate change effects and magnify the problem directly - imagine thousands of fires raging on all continents as areas succumb to severe drought. There have been many instances of fires being set maliciously by arsonists, and the damage has been tremendous in many parts of the world. What few have considered is the terrorist angle in all this – that groups might take advantage of climate change effects and magnify the problem directly – imagine thousands of fires raging on all continents as areas succumb to severe drought.

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