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	<title>Comments on: Archaic, Inefficient, Dirty and Deadly Coal=Boiled Water=Electricity</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/archaic-inefficient-dirty-and-deadly-coalboiled-waterelectricity/comment-page-1/#comment-5579</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snakelady,

I hear what your saying, I really do. But when I hear the &quot;eyesore&quot; comment in reference to wind turbines, I must wonder if people don&#039;t think that oil refineries, coal plants and oil spills are not eyesores. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snakelady,</p>
<p>I hear what your saying, I really do. But when I hear the &#8220;eyesore&#8221; comment in reference to wind turbines, I must wonder if people don&#8217;t think that oil refineries, coal plants and oil spills are not eyesores. </p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Snakelady</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/archaic-inefficient-dirty-and-deadly-coalboiled-waterelectricity/comment-page-1/#comment-5556</link>
		<dc:creator>Snakelady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both wind and solar farms are land-grabbers and eyesores.  Solar is getting more efficient, I realize, but is still not as efficient as natural gas.  The only way I can see solar/wind working for us is to place the &#039;farms&#039; in industrial zones that are already developed, and/or on existing homes &amp; businesses.  If our energy sources were right under (or above) our noses, in our own homes, we&#039;d be lots more conscious about conservation.  Our current economic woes (poor us...) are at long last developing a bit of thrift.  Unfortunately, it will only last as long as our perceived woes do.

Why are we not investing more R &amp; D into home-based geothermal heat?  In ND, we definitely NEED heat in winter!

Snakelady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both wind and solar farms are land-grabbers and eyesores.  Solar is getting more efficient, I realize, but is still not as efficient as natural gas.  The only way I can see solar/wind working for us is to place the &#8216;farms&#8217; in industrial zones that are already developed, and/or on existing homes &amp; businesses.  If our energy sources were right under (or above) our noses, in our own homes, we&#8217;d be lots more conscious about conservation.  Our current economic woes (poor us&#8230;) are at long last developing a bit of thrift.  Unfortunately, it will only last as long as our perceived woes do.</p>
<p>Why are we not investing more R &#038; D into home-based geothermal heat?  In ND, we definitely NEED heat in winter!</p>
<p>Snakelady</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/archaic-inefficient-dirty-and-deadly-coalboiled-waterelectricity/comment-page-1/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind4me,
I think there was a fundamental change in thinking when society switched from burining coal in their homes for heat, to burning it in power plants for electricity. 

People used to have to breath it directly every day, and they realized that it was dirty. Now that it&#039;s burned in power plants, out of sight and smell of the common 1st world country, people don&#039;t realize exactly how harmful it is. Instead of being in our faces, its in our skies, where coal fired plants in the Ohio Valley cause a haze in Shenandoah  N.P. down here in V.A.

Your right, we need to stop the &quot;out of sight, out of mind&quot; mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind4me,<br />
I think there was a fundamental change in thinking when society switched from burining coal in their homes for heat, to burning it in power plants for electricity. </p>
<p>People used to have to breath it directly every day, and they realized that it was dirty. Now that it&#8217;s burned in power plants, out of sight and smell of the common 1st world country, people don&#8217;t realize exactly how harmful it is. Instead of being in our faces, its in our skies, where coal fired plants in the Ohio Valley cause a haze in Shenandoah  N.P. down here in V.A.</p>
<p>Your right, we need to stop the &#8220;out of sight, out of mind&#8221; mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: wind4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>wind4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its time the public realizes the constant burning of COAL is killing us one breathe at a time.........China, USA, Canada , an Australia all produce coal and 70% of our power is produced by coal pollution..........we need CHANGE and we need Obama Change to renewables sooner rather than later.......CHINA is going to produce more green power in 20 years than the world combined!!!  Why does the USA depend on 70% power from Coal???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its time the public realizes the constant burning of COAL is killing us one breathe at a time&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;China, USA, Canada , an Australia all produce coal and 70% of our power is produced by coal pollution&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.we need CHANGE and we need Obama Change to renewables sooner rather than later&#8230;&#8230;.CHINA is going to produce more green power in 20 years than the world combined!!!  Why does the USA depend on 70% power from Coal???</p>
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		<title>By: Eddisionklein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddisionklein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site tells about the problems which are raising through Clean Coal.Many dangerous gases are emitting while the coal burns.Coal is 50% carbon, so it has a fairly high energy yield, but this also means it produces CO2.Mining of coal causes many problems in surrounding areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site tells about the problems which are raising through Clean Coal.Many dangerous gases are emitting while the coal burns.Coal is 50% carbon, so it has a fairly high energy yield, but this also means it produces CO2.Mining of coal causes many problems in surrounding areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Shake</title>
		<link>http://twilightearth.com/environment-archive-2/archaic-inefficient-dirty-and-deadly-coalboiled-waterelectricity/comment-page-1/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Shake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article you mentioned, I&#039;m sure this has a lot to do with it, 

&quot;on Oct. 3 [The Government]  extended federal investment tax credits for renewable energy projects as part of the revamped financial bailout bill. Solar industry executives say the bill, which lets consumers and businesses take a 30 percent tax credit on investments in solar and other renewable energy projects through 2016, is essential to their industry&#039;s survival.&quot;

Just goes to show that consumer and environmental guilt or &quot;doing the right thing&quot; won&#039;t motivate people. Its the money.

I agree with you about the ethanol subsidies. Both sides (green and purple) are agreeing that acre raised ethanol is not the answer. I think President Elect Obama realizes this also.  We shall see.

Thanks for the comment Roy,

Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article you mentioned, I&#8217;m sure this has a lot to do with it, </p>
<p>&#8220;on Oct. 3 [The Government]  extended federal investment tax credits for renewable energy projects as part of the revamped financial bailout bill. Solar industry executives say the bill, which lets consumers and businesses take a 30 percent tax credit on investments in solar and other renewable energy projects through 2016, is essential to their industry&#8217;s survival.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just goes to show that consumer and environmental guilt or &#8220;doing the right thing&#8221; won&#8217;t motivate people. Its the money.</p>
<p>I agree with you about the ethanol subsidies. Both sides (green and purple) are agreeing that acre raised ethanol is not the answer. I think President Elect Obama realizes this also.  We shall see.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Roy,</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Scribner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Scribner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solar tech is the new wireless boom (albeit on a smaller scale) out here in Silicon Valley (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/5ru8fu). I&#039;ve got to think that there is a major production price breakthrough just around the corner. I&#039;m also hopeful that a new administration will redirect misguided ethanol subsidies into something more efficient, perhaps solar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar tech is the new wireless boom (albeit on a smaller scale) out here in Silicon Valley (e.g. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5ru8fu)" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5ru8fu)</a>. I&#8217;ve got to think that there is a major production price breakthrough just around the corner. I&#8217;m also hopeful that a new administration will redirect misguided ethanol subsidies into something more efficient, perhaps solar.</p>
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