Global Warming is real. We see the effects of it every day. Weather systems are changing, ecosystems are falling apart, species are threatened. Our rapaciousness as a species is killing *us* never mind other species on the planet. Even without Global Warming, we’re on a path to suicide, and all many can think of is how to accumulate more false wealth (it’s phantom, for the most part; as has been demonstrated recent, repeatedly, all that stands between the illusion of wealth and the poverty line is an electronic tick.)

If there was a God, do you think she’d been pleased with the way humans have screwed up Her creation? All those Fundie types expecting to be raptured up to God’s side would likely be in for a rude awakening.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=a17defa8-802a-23ad-4912-8ab7138a7c3f

Peace

But now, calling people who call your facts into question climate ‘deniers’ – invoking the intellectual equivalent of holocost deniers – is typical OF eco-vangalist group-think

Now, I welcome open debate on the subject, and hope you don’t mind me voicing my view here on your blog. BTW, I found my way here via an article I read on the Reuters web site.

But what I’d like to know is what fact did I state that was so easily refutable? I pretty much stated only 2 related to climate change in the past resulting in extinction. The rest was opinon:

– Hundreds of years ago, England was much warmer and used to have a climate friendly to grape cultivation

– Climate change related to the Ice age, when saber tooth tigers and mamoths roamed… california. (Ever been to the la brea tar pits in los angeles?)

The point is, if the climate is the cause of a species going extinct… well then the climate is the cause of a species going extinct! Putting man as the guilty party is so far lacking in supporting evidence. And your post does not make an attempt to justify what you and many readers already assume to be irrefutible: that man is the cause.

So I would ask you to respond to one additional known fact: that since 1998 ( the hottest year on record) the last ten years have shown a cooling trend. Are you aware that the temperature data used in the UN report on climate change – the data that showed that the average temperature was continuing to rise after 1998 – was based on incorrect data due to an error when compiling the temperature records? And this error was not corrected until after the report was submitted?

Maybe global warming really is ‘man-made’!

As for the the wealth redistribution comment: that is simply a fact. What else do you call burdening successfull western economies with taxes and regulation, slowing their growth and consumption of fuel, referring (not you specically) to greedy americans with their “SUVs and their excessive consumption…”, carbon credits and all the rest. It certainly isn’t a capitalistic message! On the contrary the loudest voices for AWG activism *undeniably* come from persons and groups on the political left: Sierra club, Green party and on and on and on.

Please, refute those facts, because the link to the website you mentioned in your response did not. The only thing that stood out was the “Deniers” in 76pt font! :p

I find it interesting that skeptics and deniers tend to troll “Green” Websites, leaving their comments that are so easily refutable.

But were all adults here, and there is no reason to get spun up, so I’ll just add that the is no religious zealotry going on here, and where did you get the idea that I am advocating Wealth Redistribution? You’ve either got me mixed up with someone else, or you have your own agenda that your spreading. If the latter is the case, then I suggest that you get your own website so that you expound uninterpreted.

Thanks for the comments though, always fun!

And if the population really did died off because of climate change, well then it’s the same culprit that also killed off the wooly mammoth, the saber toothed tiger and on and on. Did you know long before the 20th century, England used to be warm enough to grow grapes? Greenland used to be green? The climate changes on it’s own.

and man is not evil.

The climate changes people, this AGW hysteria piggy backed on pictures of cute animals is nothing more than a means to villify capitalism and force socialism and wealth redistribution down everybodies throats.

Talk about religious zealotry! To some people, no amount of scientific FACT trumps those cute little animal pictures. Give people a reason to hate the human race and be amazed at the number of people ready to take up arms.